Strategy against bad moves

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PowerWyrm
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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Tue 16.12.2008, 12:29

The Lesser titan hurls a boulder at you!
Ar-Pharazon the Golden hits you.
Ar-Pharazon the Golden hits you.
Ar-Pharazon the Golden misses you.
Ar-Pharazon the Golden hits you.
Uriel, Angel of Fire casts a fire ball.
You miss Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
You hit Ar-Pharazon the Golden.
It was a good hit!
The Ancient green dragon casts a fearful illusion.
You refuse to be frightened.
Uriel, Angel of Fire breathes plasma.
You die.
Sounds like a basic mistake here... Ar-Pharazon the Golden, Uriel, Angel of Fire and a Lesser titan all in LOS in a corridor. All of them summoners and able to cast tele_to... You were asking for death here.

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by serina » Tue 16.12.2008, 21:53

But at least now we know who was carrying all the artifacts ;)

And that must've slowed you down by an incredible amount, and many of them were useless to you ;(

ZAL

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Fri 19.12.2008, 12:13

It breathes inertia.
You have a Scroll of Teleportation {@r4}.
It breathes acid.
You die.
Teleporting from hounds to hounds... this can sometimes happen (this is the primary cause of death when I launch vanilla Angband with the Borg on). Nothing much you can do...

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Fri 19.12.2008, 12:18

You feel yourself moving faster!
You have a Potion of Speed {@q3}.
It breathes fire.
One of your Scrolls of Identify {@r2} (k) was destroyed!
The Fire hound breathes fire.
It breathes fire.
The Dark elven priest creates a mesmerising illusion.
You disbelieve the feeble spell.
The Fire hound breathes fire.
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain misses you.
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain misses you.
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain misses you.
You have no more Potions of Speed {@q3}.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings misses you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings hits you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings hits you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings hits you.
You feel much better.
You have 9 Potions of Cure Critical Wounds {@q1}.
The Smoke elemental engulfs you.
The Smoke elemental engulfs you.
The Fire hound breathes fire.
The Fire hound breathes fire.
One of your Scrolls of Identify {@r2} (j) was destroyed!
You hit the Smoke elemental.
You have destroyed the Smoke elemental.
It breathes fire.
Your Awl-Pike of *Slay Animal* (1d8) (+8,+7) (+2) (o) was destroyed!
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain misses you.
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain misses you.
Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain hits you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings hits you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings hits you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings misses you.
Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings misses you.
The Mumak butts you.
The Mumak misses you.
The Mumak crushes you.
You die.
Wow a succession of mistakes here. I don't think in this situation you should stay and quaff speed and CCW pots. And no tele scrolls/staves? You can't rely on spells as a HT rogue with only 18/07 INT...

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by schroeder » Sat 20.12.2008, 08:36

heh, yeah. I knew this would wind up here. I had thought that lorgan was far away, wasn't paying 100% attention, thought that I still had teleport scrolls, and died. Lol oopse.
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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Wed 24.12.2008, 13:00

Domiano the level 47 Half-Troll Rogue killed by an Eye druj (24 Dec 08)...
Looking at the scene of death, this seems like going down or up right next to an undead pit. One of my chars also died that way. In this case, you have one... and exactly one turn to react before reavers start to open the pit and seal your doom. *Destroy* is usually the best thing to do.

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by Prosper » Thu 25.12.2008, 00:43

PowerWyrm wrote:Domiano the level 47 Half-Troll Rogue killed by an Eye druj (24 Dec 08)...
Looking at the scene of death, this seems like going down or up right next to an undead pit. One of my chars also died that way. In this case, you have one... and exactly one turn to react before reavers start to open the pit and seal your doom. *Destroy* is usually the best thing to do.
He had ESP from crown of magi +2. I doubt he would have went up or down that pit. Unless he teleported there or just arrived on the level there.. I dont see how this could have happened.

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by schroeder » Thu 25.12.2008, 05:22

Prosper wrote:
PowerWyrm wrote:Domiano the level 47 Half-Troll Rogue killed by an Eye druj (24 Dec 08)...
Looking at the scene of death, this seems like going down or up right next to an undead pit. One of my chars also died that way. In this case, you have one... and exactly one turn to react before reavers start to open the pit and seal your doom. *Destroy* is usually the best thing to do.
He had ESP from crown of magi +2. I doubt he would have went up or down that pit. Unless he teleported there or just arrived on the level there.. I dont see how this could have happened.

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Lololol. Well, I was in a permawall vault on the lvl, trying to lure some demons out (hard to do cus of shape) and i didn't do it quite right, and got summoned on. I pressed my teleport macro of ccw(in case blind) then teleport. I teleported next to the graveyard. Immediately pressed my macro again, became blind after quaffing ccw, and could not teleport. From now on, I need to just suck it up and dive with agro always on from umbar...
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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Thu 25.12.2008, 15:06

My char that also died from graveyard didn't have res blind either. Asked for death... and got it.

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Sat 27.12.2008, 13:06

The Great Wyrm of Chaos magically summons ancient dragons!
You miss the Great Wyrm of Chaos.
You miss the Great Wyrm of Chaos.
You hit the Great Wyrm of Chaos.
You hit the Great Wyrm of Chaos.
The Great Wyrm of Many Colours disappears!
The Skull druj disappears!
Ancalagon the Black breathes lightning.
You die.
I may be wrong... but where is res base here?
[Character Equipment]

a) The Beaked Axe of Hurin (3d6) (+12,+15) (+2)
b) a Long Bow of Numenor (x4) (+13,+18)
c) a Ring of Speed (+10)
d) a Ring of Constitution (+6)
e) an Amulet of ESP (+8)
f) a Feanorian Lamp
g) Chaos Dragon Scale Mail (-2) [30,+19]
h) a Shadow Cloak of the Magi [6,+26] (+2) {light}
i) a Large Metal Shield of Preservation [5,+24] {shard, dis}
j) a Jewel Encrusted Crown of Serenity [0,+14]
k) a Set of Gauntlets of the Istari (+3,+3) [2,+11] (+1) {poison}
l) The Pair of Metal Shod Boots of Thror [6,+20] (+3)

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by PowerWyrm » Sat 27.12.2008, 13:13

The wall turns into mud!
Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves magically summons hounds.
The Time hound breathes time. (a lot of them actually...)
You die.
Seeing the death spot... you should have put some doors in that vertical corridor and stayed right in front of Draugluin. In case he summoned baddies, teleport away would have taken care of all the line of summons.

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by Prosper » Mon 29.12.2008, 00:14

A mystic shield forms around your body!
The Chest mimic casts a fearful illusion.
You refuse to be frightened.
You have disarmed the dart trap.
The Chest mimic magically summons help!
You miss the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
It was a good hit!
You hit the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound claws you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound bites you.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound claws you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound bites you.
The Chaos hound bites you.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
The Chaos hound claws you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound misses you.
The Chaos hound bites you.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You hit the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
You miss the Chaos hound.
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
You die.
Domiano.. how many times have you died this week ?

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by schroeder » Mon 29.12.2008, 05:26

Prosper wrote:
The Chaos hound breathes chaos.
You die.
Domiano.. how many times have you died this week ?
Lolololol! Well you wouldn't know it, but I usually die QUITE a lot. Especially when I have free time. But yeah, my death count is up there! I'm so glad for player shops, allowing me to re-geer!!!
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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by serina » Thu 01.01.2009, 11:41

Bad luck, timing and aggravating gear.

I suggest unwielding aggravation gear before > or recalling to better avoid a situation like this.

a) a Lead-Filled Mace of Fury (3d4) (+22,+26) (+2) {@w2 !d!s!k}

You enter a maze of down staircases.
You have a good feeling...
The Tarrasque wakes up.
The Tarrasque breathes frost.
One of your Potions of Speed {@q3} (h) was destroyed!
The Ancient gold dragon wakes up.
The 7-headed hydra wakes up.
You hear a door burst open!
The Dracolich wakes up.
The Tarrasque breathes frost.
You die.

ZAL

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Re: Strategy against bad moves

Post by schroeder » Thu 01.01.2009, 20:54

serina wrote:Bad luck, timing and aggravating gear.

I suggest unwielding aggravation gear before > or recalling to better avoid a situation like this.

a) a Lead-Filled Mace of Fury (3d4) (+22,+26) (+2) {@w2 !d!s!k}

You enter a maze of down staircases.
You have a good feeling...
The Tarrasque wakes up.
The Tarrasque breathes frost.
One of your Potions of Speed {@q3} (h) was destroyed!
The Ancient gold dragon wakes up.
The 7-headed hydra wakes up.
You hear a door burst open!
The Dracolich wakes up.
The Tarrasque breathes frost.
You die.

ZAL
Heh...yeeah... I usually do. I tend to have looooots of stupid deaths. I think that i'm losing motivation to try to not die.
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